tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9814877.post1062565987522983303..comments2024-01-01T22:29:07.488-08:00Comments on ZennieAbraham.com Vlogger Zennie62Media CEO : Mad Men: The Suitcase - Don Draper's Racism In Ali vs. ListonZenniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05815765335808809176noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9814877.post-53830106200429176622010-09-08T11:18:11.212-07:002010-09-08T11:18:11.212-07:00I feel like the two commenters above have stopped ...I feel like the two commenters above have stopped watching the show. Don may present himself as a man of action over words, but this season has basically been about Don learning (or remembering) how to hustle. The rebound interview after the New York Times where he talks about leaving the old agency, his pretense of honor to the Japanese businessmen, weaseling his way into the job with Sterling after a drunk night when the book stunt failed-all show a similar sort of bravado. His striving may not be as visible as Ali's, but his disdain for Ali playing a game he himself plays is at the very least a contradiction, perhaps a sort of self-loathing for playing the game in the first place. In a complex character like Don, that contradiction is not necessarily about race alone but you can't just discount the possibility on the grounds that he is still a man of method.iranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9814877.post-18667157140623366012010-09-08T09:00:20.501-07:002010-09-08T09:00:20.501-07:00I'm with the first commenter here: Don Draper&...I'm with the first commenter here: Don Draper's opinion of Ali has less to do with race than Don Draper's own personal values. To Draper, talk is cheap, value lies in action. The louder and more grandiose someone is, the more their words ring hollow. In short, Ali's grandiose verbiage tripped Draper's bullshit alarm. He put money on Liston because Liston had always let his gloves do the talking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9814877.post-75404284522165839862010-09-06T20:44:51.245-07:002010-09-06T20:44:51.245-07:00So a white man makes a mildly critical comment of ...So a white man makes a mildly critical comment of a, at that time, extremely controversial person, and it's racism. No mention by you of the fact that Ali had just joined the Nation Of Islam (I don't know why I chose to capitalize that but I did) The noi has said a lot worse things about whites and jews than Don Draper ever did about blacks. You should read "The devil and Sonny Liston" by Nick Tosches. Your are seeing racism in the carpet patterns, calma te.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9814877.post-73043299171682899592010-09-06T17:12:36.285-07:002010-09-06T17:12:36.285-07:00I don't think Draper's comments were abou...I don't think Draper's comments were about race. These character's exist in a different time, therefore that's where their thinking comes from. However, I think Draper's comments reflect his attitudes as man, not as a "white man". If you're a regular of the program, you could see EXACTLY why Draper liked Liston. Draper is a man who has always depended on his actions to speak louder than words. We see this in the current story line where Draper's professional nemesis, does nothing but trash talk- Draper just goes about his business and makes the guy eat his words. Become a fan of the show, then rewrite this posting....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com